Fyi, 9mm 147gr hst pulls occasionally appear at american reloading. In national institute of justice testing, bullets were evaluated and scored. This is a discussion on federal hst within the ammo and reloading forums, part of the gun forum category. In the event of a failure to expand due to defective bullet design, manufacture or plugging in clothing etc. Instead of bonding, the bullet features a cannelure in the shank to hold the core and jacket together mechanically. These are a solid defense bullet for a fraction of the price of new bullets. Its specially designed hollow point wont plug while passing through a variety of barriers, and the bullet jacket and core hold together to provide nearly 100.
Federal hst ammo tests 20141122 20141116 hsoi after reading my post about pick your ammo, and move on, long time reader and kr training student, shared some data collection he performed a few years ago. However when i look up federal hst 9mm 124gr there are tons of types. Basically, if i had a display of hst boxes in front of me and i picked a box at random in. Federal hydrashok for the last 30 years, the federal hydrashok has pretty much defined the defensive bullet. The lucky gunner tests showed excellent expansion at 825 fps from a 2 barrel, and 1 more penetration and about the same expansion at 850 fps from a 4 barrel, so my goal is to approach those velocities, which are not over the design limits of the bullet. I looked on federals website and couldnt find any mention of the hst line but i think mas ayoob in the recent guns magazine march 2010 edition mentioned them as lead free but i might well be. Of the two pairs the one on the left is the bonded le for both calibers and the. The addition of federal premium hst ammunition to the commercial market allowed. The copperplated projectile and nickelplated case prevents corrosion during long term carry and are backed with federals premium primers for reliable ignition round after round. Shooting illustrated federal premium 9mm micro hst. For me, i believe the hst to be the best bullet design currently available. The hst design also expands more than any other design out there. This cartridge features a 200grain bullet at about 1100 fps in most handguns.
The hst is designed to offer consistent expansion and a balance. With wide nosed hp ammo you can get premature slide lock. The 124 will bw just fine and the golden sabre has long been a good bullet design,along with the gold dot from speer. That said, i will be adding to my supply of factory ammunition from both speer and federal. Target sports usa carries the entire line of remington ammunition for sale online with.
Fullpower loading makes the most of the hst bullet design, providing large, consistent expansion, optimum penetration and superior terminal performance. Federal premium hst ammunition shooting illustrated. It doesnt get any better than this 9mm 124 grain hst jacketed hollow point by federal. Experience suggests that smooth projectiles under 20mm diameter are laminarturbulent, and. Federal law enforcement 9mm luger ammo 124 grain hst jacketed hollow point p9hst1 federal law enforcement 9mm luger ammo 124 grain hst jacketed hollow point ammo for sale online at cheap discount prices with free shipping available on bulk 9mm luger ammunition only at our online store. It is my understanding that the original design post sometimes had expansion problems when shooting through multiple layers of. Hornady 220gr cd 5, quarter, federal 230gr hst, barnes 185gr tacxp in bare gelatin summary in general, the hornady critical duty ammunition did not. Hst isnt a spinoff or a sequel to hydrashok as it uses a wholly different design. Target sports usa carries the entire line of remington ammunition for. The hst bullet doesnt have the little post in the center of the hollow point. I use the standard pressure 124gr 9mm load in my hk p30 because of the mild recoil.
Xpd, decline to talk about their ammo, but theres another name that keeps. Federal premium personal defense hst ammunition has been specially designed to deliver consistent, tremendous expansion, optimum penetration and. This year, federal made these products even better by combining their top. Two selfdefense handgun rounds from federal premium. Hst is my first choice in business ammo and i carry it in all the service calibers.
Federal offers a heavyhitting 9 mm round designed for shortbarrel pistols. A specially designed hollowpoint tip wont plug while passing through a variety of barriers and this bullet holds its jacket in the toughest conditions hst is engineered to provide 100% weight retention through most barriers and impressive expansion. The tapered bullet design prevents contact with the slide lock tab. Jan 27, 2011 the bullet design is way better, and at least in testing with the real calibers 9mm and up most of the loadings will at least pass fbi protocol pretty easily and consistently. The soft lead core and skived jacket of this bullet are designed to. The winchester bullets weight wasnt photographed but it was 109. The federal premium personal defense line is more powerful and complete than ever, with loads built for every shooter and any encounter. Federal premium ammunitions personal defense hst micro loads fuel peak performance from subcompact, concealedcarry handguns.
This year, federal made these products even better by combining their topofthe line hst loads with american eagle training rounds. Comparison of federal hst and remington golden saber bonded. Hst is enginerred to provide 100% weight retention. Federal hst bullets page 1 reloading 10mm ammo 10mm. The hst hollowpoint bullet expands on impact in multiple petals that cut through the target, creating wide wound channels, while the gaps between the expanded petals. Through careful attention to design, federal premiums engineers. This tactical ammunition featured a new bullet designated hst. Hornady 220gr cd 5, quarter, federal 230gr hst, barnes 185gr tacxp in bare gelatin bottom row. Federal tactical hst 9mm jacketed hollowpoint expansion testing. Ive been searching for a replacement 9mm carry load and my research thus far has brought me to these three contenders. Basically, if i had a display of hst boxes in front of me and i picked a box at random in whatever caliber, chances are it will pass.
The only thing i would do is shoot a good amount of the golden sabres,the bullet shape can be a finicky feeder. Feeding issues with federal hst florida, alabama, gulf. The next generation in high performance le duty ammunition, hst offers consistent expansion and optimum penetration for terminal performance. This bullet versus that bullet, glock versus xd, iwb versus owb, whatever. Top 5 best 9mm defensive carry ammo defensive carry loads. Federal hst 124 grain jhp hollow point le ammo page 3. Nra program materials center nra marksmanship qualification program find. Underwood golddot if this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. The federal ballistics calculator lets you quickly determine the trajectory for any rifle or handgun load, and save data for an unlimited number of loads.
Federal premium expands personal defense hst micro lineup. If hole size did not matter, then we would all go back to fmj. As the bullets move up the magazine they can sometimes catch the slide lock tab that is next to the feed ramp. Hst bullets result in larger expanded diameters than hydrashok. In direct communication with federal ammunitions law enforcement division i was told early on that hst is not an acronym and has no hidden meaning. Federal hst ammo the leading glock forum and community. Each projectile in this box of 50 is a 124 grain hst jacketed hollow point leaves the barrel at 1,150 feet per second. Bullet design software dc1015 bullet engineers pack the bullet engineers pack has been completely rewritten and updated for windows. Federal hst 9mm 147 grain jacketed hollow point 500 count. Comparison of federal hst and remington golden saber. Dec 25, 2012 i have also tried the federal hydro shock and was not impressed,the hs has a pin in the center and the hst does not,different bullet design,i researched the hst online and appears only law enforcement can purchase the complete rounds,the expansion appears to be awesome and appears to be like the black talon bullet. The winchester bullet s weight wasnt photographed but it was 109. I carry those in my 1911, because they freaking run like champs.
Thats what great expansion is supposed to look like, awesome pictures cory. Federal practice defend ammo combo pack 45 acp 230 grain full. Federal hydra shock 165 vs 230 grain springfield xd forum. The hst bullets all lost a few grains of mass but it probably wasnt enough to radically change the outcome. Just a quick question, arent the federal hsts a lead free design using an all copper bullet. I have recently changed over to the federal hst 230 gr. When you are selecting selfdefense ammo, it is important to find a hollow point that offers. Its a difficult trick to design a bullet that can expand well and penetrate. Bullet 147 grain hst jacketed hollow point jhp casing boxerprimed nickelplated brass.
With the federal premium hst ammunition, federal went a different direction. This bullet has no post in the cavity and has six grooves running almost the whole length of the side of the jacket. The military surplus, 1033program rifles with their 20 barrels soon gave way to. After choosing it for my carry gun, glock 43 most of the time, ive had several occasions where the tip of the bullet gets stuck on the bottom edge of the feed ramp. The federal hst is an incredibly effective and popular duty round for law enforcement, but this highly engineered bullet is also a little pricier than the average jhp round, which.
It consists of the dc1001 tangential ogive calculator, dc1003 paper patch bullet design calculator, dc1004 terminal ballistics plotter tplot, dctwist twist rate calculator, and hb9e handbook. I tried hst and sig hp ammo and had issues with this. After researching online and in the sub i would like to purchase federal hst 9mm 124gr bullets for my carry. Federal 9mm luger ammo handgun hst bulk federal 9mm. The ammos main selling point was that the bullets featured a more robust center post mated with a core design, and together these two features. Same thing with winchester pdx1 bonded and win ranger bonded in 50rd box. Tactical, law enforcement, etc are all the same thing just sold in different packaging. The bullet design is way better, and at least in testing with the real calibers 9mm and up most of the loadings will at least pass fbi protocol pretty easily and consistently. At federal, we not only build the industrys widest variety of ammunition, we offer the leading products for every facet of the shooting sports. Of the two pairs the one on the left is the bonded le for both calibers and the right one of each pair is non le, not bonded. The pulls are in reasonably good shape, although the pull burrs can interfere in the gauge. Federal tactical hst 9mm jacketed hollowpoint expansion. Nov 04, 2017 last time i checked bone and tissue has not changed since the 1980s. Ballistics experts use computeraided design software to build and model.
Learn the key performance and design differences that set hst, hydrashok deep and punch apart from one another to choose the one that fits you best. Also, check out our patreon page if you enjoy our program, and. If your order isnt in stock and shipped on time, we will make it. Although federal has 11 hst loads listed in a range of calibers for law enforcement, its currently only offering three for commercial sale. Federal premium personal defense micro hst handgun ammo. These bullets feature a mechanically bonded core and jacket to penetrate deep and create a massive wound channel. This is a discussion on federal tactical hst 9mm jacketed hollowpoint expansion testing within the ammo and reloading forums, part of the gun forum category. These 9mm rounds are loaded into premium nickelplated brass casings that feature noncorrosive boxer primers. It is the second generation of federal s hydrashok bullet design. The brainchild of ballistic engineer tom burczynski, the hydrashok was developed in an attempt to better the terminal ballistics of a standard cupandcore jacketed bullet design, and it did exactly that.
Federal hst 124 grain jhp hollow point le ammo page 3 the. Federal hst ammo tests 20141122 20141116 hsoi after reading my post about pick your ammo, and move on, long time reader and kr training student, shared. Bullet 124 grain hst jacketed hollow point jhp casing boxerprimed nickelplated brass. Hst micro boolits, and am about to begin carefully working up loads. Federals scuffmarks on some bullets also indicate oal closer to 1. The speer gold dot g2 bullet is an electrochemically bonded, jacketed. Hst is simply the designation assigned to a specific bullet design. Last time i checked bone and tissue has not changed since the 1980s. If anyone has the quickload software, could they run a load. Has anyone ever experienced ftf failure to feed with federal hst. The personal defense one comes in a box of 20 in a fancy plastic box.
I have some positive reports about its extreme expansion capabilities. Aug 05, 20 the 124 will bw just fine and the golden sabre has long been a good bullet design,along with the gold dot from speer. This may be a stupid question but i am really confused and previous posts did not help. Federal 9mm luger ammo handgun hst bulk federal 9mm luger. Federal hst by dan zimmerman on march 10, 2015 federal dropped something of a bombshell on the. Comparison of hornady critical duty compared to hst and tacxp all information on this page provided by doctor gary roberts this test highlights the performance of the 9mm. I assumed mag issue right away and bought a new mag. I have also tried the federal hydro shock and was not impressed,the hs has a pin in the center and the hst does not,different bullet design,i researched the hst online and appears only law enforcement can purchase the complete rounds,the expansion appears to be awesome and appears to be like the black talon bullet. The winchester 110gr jhp bullet is on the right and is included for comparison. Federal designed premium personal defense micro hst handgun ammo to provide maximum firepower from smaller microsized concealed carry handguns meant for selfdefense. But hardware selection is almost irrelevant compared to the software part of selfdefense. My main point is just that people get way too wrapped up with the hardware end of things.
The federal hst is an incredibly effective and popular duty round for law. Federals hst 9mm rounds have passed fbi test protocols with flying colors and have become adopted by law enforcement agencies across the country. A specially designed hollowpoint tip wont plug while passing through a variety of barriers and this bullet holds its jacket in the toughest conditions. Federal practice defend ammo combo pack 45 acp 230 grain. Federal hst, speer golddot, and underwood ammo golddot loads.
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